Can AI Increase Conversion Rates? We Talk with Ecommerce Expert Matthew Stafford

Aleksandar Nikoloski Jun 11, 2025

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In this episode, hosts Jonathan and Sean of the Persuasion by the Pint Podcast have an engaging and insightful conversation with Matthew Stafford, a seasoned entrepreneur and the managing partner of Build Grow Scale. Matthew has built multiple businesses across diverse industries, from concrete brick-and-mortar ventures to pioneering successful eCommerce platforms, achieving remarkable milestones like generating $15 million in t-shirt sales in just over two years.

Here, they dive deep into eCommerce optimization, highlighting critical principles that most businesses overlook. He discusses the transformational power of AI, data-driven decisions, and why focusing on customer clarity and experience is paramount in dramatically improving conversion rates.

Key Takeaways:

Shifting Focus from Traffic to Conversion:
Matthew emphasizes that many eCommerce businesses mistakenly believe they need more traffic. Instead, he demonstrates how a strategic shift towards optimizing your current visitors’ experience using clean data, simple navigation, and clear communication can significantly increase sales without spending more on advertising.

Your Website Is Your Conversation:
Matthew explains that your website must speak clearly and directly to your customers’ subconscious needs. Poor or aggressive communication causes significant customer drop-off. He illustrates this point with relatable examples, such as why placing an “Add to Cart” button on your homepage is ineffective and why transparency about pricing builds trust.

Psychology Drives Sales:
Through compelling examples from his own experience, Matthew explores psychological principles like micro-commitments and persuasion strategies that can drastically reduce cart abandonment. Simple adjustments such as clearly explaining why certain information like emails and phone numbers are required, which can drastically improve conversion rates.

The Power of Asking Questions:
One powerful tip Matthew shares is to simply ask your customers why they almost didn’t purchase. This approach has consistently revealed hidden conversion bottlenecks, allowing brands to solve specific issues that directly boost their bottom line.

AI as Your Next Big Advantage:
Matthew discusses how integrating AI into customer service and analytics has led to significant improvements in conversion rates and customer satisfaction. AI’s ability to consistently provide friendly, timely, and accurate support has transformed customer interactions, surpassing human-driven support in many cases.

Notable Quotes:

Traffic isn’t your problem; conversion is. Fixing the customer experience on your website is way more effective than just pumping more visitors through.
Your website is your conversation with your client that you can’t have personally. Make sure it’s clear, straightforward, and solves their problems instead of creating more.
People don’t mind giving information if you give them a reason why. Simple tweaks can reduce form errors by hundreds of percent.
AI never has a bad day. It’s always consistent, always available, and knows your product inside and out.

About the author

Aleksandar Nikoloski

Aleks is BGS’s Head of Revenue Optimization, an author, and a speaker. He has helped rapid-scale dozens of 6, 7, and multiple 8-figure stores as part of BGS’s Amplify Partnership program. He has gotten one store from $2.6 million a year to $6.7 million a year in 24 months, while another from doing $300k/month to doing over $2 million/month in less than 6 months, just to mention a few. The BGS team calls him the “Site Whisperer” because of his ability to find site nuances that derail the customers’ journey and cause purchase friction. Extremely meticulous and analytical, he credits all of this success to data and accurate interpretation of that data, as well as his ability to implement and test new ideas almost immediately.

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